The iPhone 13 Mini has better autonomy than the iPhone SE 2022

“The battery stroke is that an infirm part of what they do in a sailor”
The battery stroke is not obsolescence.
It’s not me who says it, but the director of the DGCCRF. I put the link above in another comment.

A good autonomy test for iPhone 13

The different models of iPhone 13 have larger batteries than their predecessors and they promise higher autonomy, from 1.5 to 2.5 hours overtime depending on the model. The Youtubeur MRWHOSETHEBOSS has carried out an autonomy test with all the iPhone models currently in the Apple catalog, and this test gives us very encouraging results.

With similar settings on all models and identical intense use, the new range of Apple smartphones has beaten old flat models. While the iPhone 13 Pro Max is reaching autonomy records, the new mini model is doing very well by allowing itself to exceed the iPhone 12, which was already much more autonomous than the iPhone 12 Mini. However, it remains below the classic iPhone 13, which has also progressed a lot compared to the iPhone 12.

Here are the specific results: iPhone 13 pro Max (9:52 am), iPhone 13 pro (8:17 am), iPhone 13 (7:45 am), iPhone 13 mini (6:26), iPhone 12 (5:54), iPhone 11 (4:20) and iPhone SE (3h38). This test has no real scientific value but it gives us a good idea of ​​what to expect in terms of autonomy with the new iPhone models.

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September 25, 2021 at 4:25 pm

Mini Forever .

September 25, 2021 at 6:57 PM

I am impressed by these results and … doubtful !

The result of the shocking me … that of the iPhone 11 even more: when it was released, it was an impressive good forward in terms of autonomy !
Consomac and many other journalists had described the iPhone XR “it is undoubtedly the best autonomy you can get with an iPhone” and the iPhone 11 was tested to have 1 hour more than the iPhone XR
Read: https: // Conseomac.FR/News-11256-Notre-Test-de-l-IPhone-11-et-de-l-IPhone-11-Pro.html

Or Apple made an extreme good forward to move from an autonomy of the iPhone 11 deemed spectacular in 2019 to an autonomy deemed very very poor in 2021 ..

Either its test used new iPhone for those in 2021, and iPhone already used for the old ones, surely used with fast recharge etc which degraded the battery…

September 25, 2021 at 19:26

@Matt: or latest generation is considerably reduced the battery performance of old models. Which wouldn’t be that surprising.. I received for 13 pro, I am curious to see the difference with my S20 which is a real stew in terms of battery!

September 25, 2021 at 19:40

@Appletea exact, planned obsolescence is not to be excluded. Should make comparisons with similar autonomy tests carried out the exit years of the iPhone 12 and 11 (and therefore turning on old versions of iOS).

September 25, 2021 at 19:58

@appletea @Macintosh well seen !!
Similar autonomy tests carried out the exit years of the iPhone 12 and 11 ?
It must surely exist ..

September 25, 2021 at 20:09

They specify well at the start of the video that all the iPhones used have 100% battery “health”.

September 25, 2021 at 20:10:

It’s ladle, let’s wait for a few other opinions and tests .

September 25, 2021 at 20:35

@itibo so it can be planned obsolescence

September 25, 2021 at 11:26 PM

No, it’s not planned obsolescence.
You have to stop seeing evil everywhere.

September 25, 2021 at 23:52

If all iphones have 100%battery health, there are really questions to ask.

For me, it is planned obsolescence, but not in the sense that “Apple expressly reduces the durations of batteries”, but simply that the applications are more and more resourceful, and the old processors must trime ( and consume) much more to keep pace.

September 26, 2021 at 00:01

@Orion therefore not at all planned obsolescence.

September 26, 2021 at 00:01

Not in one or two years of time. And the devs of third -party apps have no interest in pushing you to change iPhone (the purpose of planned obsolescence) since he wins nothing that you are on an iPhone 11 or 12.

If that is, explain to me how the developers are a winner in doing this, which would prove that there is an interest in changing the iPhone for their personal profit.

It’s not a plot of developers either, huh.

September 26, 2021 at 00:04

That the apps are increasingly greedy, yes, but that’s not a scoop and it’s like that since IT has existed.
It does not make it planned obsolescence however.
The apps enrich themselves, so require more and more power, it’s just logical.

September 26, 2021 at 00:13

The processor is less and less greedy, perhaps iOS is also better and better optimized + a larger battery = here

September 26, 2021 at 06:07

@matt: I have the iPhone 8, cousin and elder of the iPhone Se. And I can confirm that the autonomy is shabby, certainly below 3:38, and yet my battery is still in good condition. Fortunately, that I use it little, otherwise it would be impossible on 24 hours (moreover, I do not watch videos and I do not play).

September 26, 2021 at 08:16

I found the same video of the author of the YouTube channel but which dates from 2018 and which tests the autonomy of the iPhone XR and the iPhone XS
With a very similar test, mainly based on the consumption of social networks etc … and under iOS 12.
The iPhone XR has been tested at a range of 5 hours ..
As explained in my previous message, the iPhone 11 is supposed to have 1 hour of autonomy more than the XR !

If this is not a sign that the new versions of iOS greatly degrade the autonomy of the old models, I do not know what it is !

September 26, 2021 at 10:38 am

The truth is that the new versions of iOS greatly degrade the autonomy of the old models

September 26, 2021 at 10:46

@matt
The test may seem similar but impossible to compare because they are not identical … if we do not compare exactly the same tests we don’t talk about anything ..
And as these tests are done to empty the battery the fact that an iPhone 11 holder 4:20 does not mean that an XR would hold 3:20, although apple communicates on 1 hour difference in daily use.

September 26, 2021 at 10:51

@bulusglo
You give us a test before/after iOS update to prove this “truth”?

September 26, 2021 at 12:17

@buloslgo that’s what I conclude

@piroquem frankly the two tests are very very similar ! A little social networks, a little video game etc ..
So little difference does not justify as much difference in autonomy:
iPhone 11 (iOS15): 4:20
iPhone XR (iOS12): 5:01 (14% difference with iPhone 11 under iOS15)

In another video by the test author, the iPhone 11 under iOS 13 has been 5 hours, there is clearly a problem

September 26, 2021 at 12:31

@matt
You just have to change the proportions a little and it changes everything. The video does not consume much unlike video games for example.
There is also the network that can influence.
In short, it seems far too uncertain to say anything.
Besides, the author of the videos makes a comparison each time, if his tests were reproducible it would be enough to test the new models only and to compare to the old results.

September 26, 2021 at 13:53

I see that we have apparently followers of conspiracies on Conseomac.

The new versions of iOS are not voluntarily more energy -consuming than the old.
You really have to stop with that.
They can be a little more depending on the integrated features but it is not done voluntarily for any obscure purpose.

September 26, 2021 at 3:19 PM

It is not even necessarily a question of being voluntarily more energy -consuming, but that naturally, the versions of iOS and the apps (native to iOS or not) are more and more gourmet in processor, and that the old processors must row.

For example, new photo features (smart autofocus, artificial bokeh, more advanced noise processing, etc.), recognition of content of photos (album with such person, etc.), the widgets that act, the applications that offer more of features (ex. Picture-in-a-top for YouTube, Snapchat filters, etc.), in short all the new features are optimized in resources by having as a work base the new, more powerful iPhones.
The developers want to add new products to their apps, and if such a novelty has the consequence of consuming 5% more on the previous generation, it is certainly a disadvantage which is systematically ignored. We develop for the future, not for the past.

Conclusion: We can be happy that this year the jump forward on the A15 processor is modest, it will extend the lifespan of previous iPhones.

September 26, 2021 at 4:11 PM

@matt thank you for the link. Certainly we cannot say that it is a test identical to 100% but it is always very interesting.

And yes even without it being planned and voluntary obsolescence there is not surprising that the new iOS iterations are optimized for new processors and new iPhone for new features that Not necessarily feel the use (I’m not just talking about the video and the photo) and that the old models are “neglected”.

@Lolyangccool I do not shout in the plot but we can still remember that Apple was sentenced to a fine for planned obsolescence not so long ago that it. In any case I continue to think that the comparisons of autonomy between iPhone of different generations are more interesting if they are made on their exit year bones than on the latest version of iOS.

September 26, 2021 at 5:04 PM

I join you on the fact that a version of iOS can be more energy -consuming than the previous one.
It ok. Where I don’t join you is that it is voluntary.
Anyway, Apple has left the choice this year to go on iOS 15 or not, we are more or less forced to do so.
So those who want to keep their iPhone 12/mini/pro/pro max on branch 14.x, they can do it.
Like that it is the “original” bone that will be preserved.

September 26, 2021 at 5:17 PM

@ Lol: “So those who want to keep their iPhone 12/mini/pro/pro max on branch 14.x, they can do it.»». If the harassment of the red pastille reminding them “that an update is available” does not disturb them! Apple could separate the security updates from others, and allow you to keep your old sure iPhone. without the gadgets designed for the latest generation!

September 26, 2021 at 5:35 pm

Michel Bellemare: Precisely that’s what I explain: there’s no more forcing from Apple, there’s no red pastille, iOS 15 is only mentioned without being forced to update.
I ironed my old iPhone 12 pro Max under iOS 14.8 And I confirm that the red lozenge is absent.
I put the links to the images so that the integration of the image is not disturbing:
Suggest but not forced update: https: // Share.GetCloudapp.com/7kuegp4D
Absence of a pluic on the Homescreen: https: // share.GetCloudapp.com/z4ujr6dj

September 26, 2021 at 5:43 PM

@Macintosh: “In addition, the DGCCCRF cabinet director, Loïc Tanguy, tells our colleagues from the Parisian that no program of planned obsolescence had been noted:“ The lack of information had an impact on the sustainability of the device [but] our survey has not highlighted the planned obsolescence in the legal sense “. »»

No offense of obsolescence planned for Apple. And it is a pro Android site generally not super tender with Apple who says it.
https: // www.frandroid.com/Brands/Apple/672752_IPhone-lents-Apple-paie-25-MILLIONS-DUROS-SANS-ETRE-CONDAMNE-POUR-OBSOLESSE-SOPRMMEE

September 26, 2021 at 5:45 pm

So in short, they were condemned not for planned obsolescence but for lies not omission.

September 26, 2021 at 6:04 PM

Apple has billions
Apple wants to change the world
That they then work to “revolutionize” the battery (rather than the processor) the impact for the ecological and the uses would be “beneficial” colossal.

September 26, 2021 at 6:23 PM

Yeah, I understand the issues of each but frankly, it is still logical to see the new aircraft being more comfortable with the 2021-2022 apps than the 2018-2019 Nan apps ?
In 2019, we used 50% of the power of 11 while now, it must rise to more than 80% so the battery melts naturally faster.
Either we are “USERPOWER” and we change Device every 2 years to live the experience or we are classic thoroughly and all these apps are there from time to time in front of our eyes ..

Must also understand that the New iPhone 13 are so much more powerful than the XR and the 11 that the apps, games and others logically adapt in this sense.
It is as if you were released a PS5 with the same graphics as the PS4 not to thwart them and that you were told “my PS4 Trop Ventiles is unplayable”.

Totally agree with Vanzoo for battery technology

September 26, 2021 at 6:33 PM

Frankly must not call me a conspirator otherwise you did not understand my point.

And this point, I will qualify it. Indeed, in a test of this youtuber the iPhone XR was 5 hours and in another test of the same YouTuber author the iPhone 11 was also 5 hours ..

Either the tests are not comparable, or Apple to “lied” concentrating the autonomy of 11 which is supposed to be superior to the XR.

But frankly I deviate from no possibility … I especially think that all of this is non-binding !

September 26, 2021 at 6:48 PM

@matt
Tell yourself that if you were testing the iPhone 13 with the appliances that have the delicacy of 2018, you would have an autonomy of 10 hours for the 13 and almost 15 for the pro max ��

September 26, 2021 at 19:28

@matt: Let’s say that you read you and other people, it feels like you say that Apple will voluntarily decrease the autonomy of the old iPhone via update to push for renewal.
I’m sorry but that is at the limit of conspiracy if.

September 26, 2021 at 20:15

@lol and @Fab must stop saying nonsense. I am a developer, Instagram of 2018 and that of 2021 does not consume more resources. As we do not decide that an application used50% of the performance of the machine. It is the bone that manages the resource allocated for each application.

Furthermore, I confirm that Apple has already shamefully applied obscolescence, the battery stroke is that an informed part of what they do in the submarine. My iPhone 5S of the time could no longer even write an SMS text without rowing, as a result of the updated update, and you don’t want to tell me that an SMS requires more resources in 2014 than in 2015 in 2015.

In short, now they are smarter and do it more discreetly, their main interests in Apple is to sell as many iPhone as possible every year and that its park is renewed, you have to stop being naive

September 26, 2021 at 20:55

@Siou: we wonder who says nonsense. IOS of 2021 is heavier than IPhone OS of 2007. It is a fact.
And bad example SMS because if the messages app has been enriched strongly since 2007 and weighs down at the same time.
The one who says nonsense here is not me.
Look at the weight of the iPSW file of iOS. In 2007 it weighed a few hundred mega -centers.
We are between 5 and more than 6GB currently depending on the iPhone.

September 26, 2021 at 9:00 p.m

I took 2007 voluntarily so that it was blatant, but from year to year it increases. It’s like that always and for many if not all bones. It’s the same on Android, Windows and Linux.
“I am a developer”
Well, let me not call on your services, to be heard such beaks. Glad not to be your customer.

Taking an example (Instagram) enabled thousands of cases and making it a generality is a bit daring underpoudré with bad liver.
Of course some apps do not grow.
But the majority if. Look at Facebook for example, to stay in the social network.

September 26, 2021 at 21:10 AM

What I mean is that if it is heavier and suddenly it consumes more resources, overconsumption being due to additional heaviness.

September 26, 2021 at 21:13

“The battery stroke is that an infirm part of what they do in a sailor”
The battery stroke is not obsolescence.
It’s not me who says it, but the director of the DGCCRF. I put the link above in another comment.

September 26, 2021 at 21:18

First of all, am I talking about 2007 in my example ? I compare the year 20014 and 2015 for writing in a text text.. Between two versions of iOS on the same hardware.

Then what is the ratio between the weight of an application and its CPU & GPU use ?

You think you are above mixing it and despising people in their areas Oki no worries, I leave you

September 26, 2021 at 21:22

“Then what is the ratio between the weight of an application and its CPU & GPU use ? »»
The more heavy it is more it consumes.

“You think you are above mixing it and despising people in their areas”
This remark was unwelcome from someone who does the same thing.
Do what I say.

September 26, 2021 at 21:24

As you are developer you think you know everything and be right about everything.
Get back to you too, you never know everything, we all have to learn.
To say from the outset I am a developer you say that shit is not contempt maybe ?

September 26, 2021 at 9:30 p.m

I’m going to stop answering you because I don’t want to get into an argument, scuse me sir of not having your science infused.

Come on, good evening. Ciao.

September 26, 2021 at 21:35

“Then what is the ratio between the weight of an application and its CPU & GPU use ? »»
The more heavy it is more it consumes.

I stop reading you at this line, because it is completely false, the answer “it’s no”, there is no correlation.

September 26, 2021 at 21:37

Exact. There is no report. Mea culpa.

September 26, 2021 at 21:52

There is indeed no relationship between the weight of an app and its consumption.
I made a confusion and an error I admit it. Please excuse me.
However, the way to point out the error, although real, is not correct either.
Always being in a power relationship is tiring and unpleasant, I am also faulty, surely, but I am not the only one either.
We can all make mistakes.

Sorry, good evening.

September 26, 2021 at 22:56

@Siou
The example of the application which does not consume more resources over the updates seems to me very next to the plate since there are in this comparison of the games which it seems to me (but I can myself deceive?) its most greedy in resources each year … Apple is generally very strong to present the fabulous progress of games on iOS in Keynotes.

September 27, 2021 at 08:09

I took the simple example of Instagram, because it is representative of the social networks, and they have not moved so much in 3 years in terms of features, (the video flow etc, was already present) there is not reason that these applications consume more resources in 2021 during a simple slide test as in the example. On the contrary with the advance of video codecs (optimizations) I would rather tend to think that they consume less but I could be wrong.

Regarding the games, the progress presented (on the keynots) concerned the new chips that consume less thanks to better finesse of engraving and better performance, or new architecture (low heart for light treatments), it seems not ?

In general, AAA games on mobile, as on PC, do not consume more watt per generation but require more performance to be fluid.

I take an example a 2008 game which put in pls a 2008 machine (any confused platform) will consume as many watt as a 2013 game on the same hardware, there will just be less picture per second available.

I also think that for big publishers the games are optimized by iPhone so that it turns properly on each generation, it would not be unlikely that light effects etc be deactivated, to make a game on an aging hardware more fluid compared to the latest generation.

September 27, 2021 at 09:45

True “programmed” obsolescence is certain app that decides not to update their application by changing minimal version of iOS. What I can understand by maintenance costs, but some big publishers seriously abuse.
Slack for example, completely prevents the use of the installed version which has become obsolete according to them, disconnects the accounts, the app becomes an empty shell.
They deserves a trial !
By dint of appliance without update it forces the user to renewal … for purely software reasons.

September 27, 2021 at 12:17

@Siou
I admit that I do not at all be convinced that we are not going from year to year to an ever -term use and data on smartphones by apps.
It is compensated on new hardware by more efficient fleas and which decade new codecs, but the old hardware are found over the years more and more asked, although they do not support all the new features.

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The iPhone 13 Mini has better autonomy than the iPhone SE 2022

An independent benchmark shows that the iPhone 13 Mini is about 40 minutes more than the iPhone SE 2022 – despite certain aspects known to be more energy -consuming.

Posted on April 4, 2022 at 1:30 p.m

The iPhone 13 Mini, like their predecessors the iPhone 12 Mini, are clearly not the best sales of the last two iPhone generations. Quite the opposite of the iPhone Se that Apple has just timidly refresh with the iPhone SE 2022.

The new aircraft is supposed to be the most affordable entry point for the supply of the latest smartphones of the brand. However, if you read our test of the iPhone SE 2022, you will quickly understand why the smartphone disappointed us.

Autonomy, another argument against the purchase of an iPhone SE 2022 ?

Apple retains fundamentals that have not changed from the iPhone 8. We find the same backlit LCD / IPS backlit with XXL edges, the same photo sensors, the same home button with fingerprint sensor, and always no technology facing.

There is of course the new A15 Bionic chip, and a battery a little above 2000 mAh, against 1821 mAh for the battery of the iPhone 8. But at a rate greater than 500 euros, the overall proposal seems quite expensive.

Especially since other smartphones of the ultra-recent lineup compare themselves very favorably to the model. The iPhone 12 Mini, or even the iPhone 11 Pro Max, all offer better services for an equivalent price. The iPhone 13 Mini is more expensive for the moment.

But the comparison between the iPhone SE 2022 and this model remains relevant, especially if they are only compared. Indeed, we have the same chip, a slightly more capable battery (around 2400 mAh) … but also more energy consumption stations.

The iPhone 13 Mini lasts longer ..

During his latest endurance test, the Youtubeur Brandon Butch realized that the iPhone SE 2022 is really not very good on the side of the autonomy. Of course we could expect the iPhone 13 Mini to have better autonomy thanks to its more capable battery.

But there is still something disturbing. Because the device offers a different, much larger – technology screen with a definition 1080 x 2340 px against 750 x 1334 pixels on the iPhone SE screen. Deliver an increased definition traditionally consumes much more energy.

The two smartphones otherwise have the same A15 Bionic chip, and yet the endurance result is final:

• iPhone SE 2022 : 5 hours 16 minutes
• iPhone 13 mini : 5 hours and 55 minutes